I like Libre Office because It does not have Co-Pilot!
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Re: I Like Libre Office
By: UTOPIAN GALT to ALL on Sun Apr 19 2026 09:28 am

I like Libre Office because It does not have Co-Pilot!

Can't say I disagree. Many more reasons I like Libre Office beyond that, of course. :)
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Re: I Like Libre Office
By: UTOPIAN GALT to ALL on Sun Apr 19 2026 09:28 am

I like Libre Office because It does not have Co-Pilot!

Me too!!!

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Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Kurisu to UTOPIAN GALT on Sun Apr 19 2026 12:35 pm

Re: I Like Libre Office
By: UTOPIAN GALT to ALL on Sun Apr 19 2026 09:28 am

I like Libre Office because It does not have Co-Pilot!

Can't say I disagree. Many more reasons I like Libre Office beyond that, of course. :)
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I personally rarely use office apps unless it is in a collaborative setting so I end up needing google docs, or something similar that allows multiple people to simultaneously edit the same file. Also having to actually install an office suite on my computer feels like an outdated concept

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Re: I Like Libre Office
By: UTOPIAN GALT to ALL on Sun Apr 19 2026 09:28 am

I like Libre Office because It does not have Co-Pilot!

I love libre office, It's free and I can save my calc work to an excel document.


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Re: I Like Libre Office
By: UTOPIAN GALT to ALL on Sun Apr 19 2026 09:28 am

Poor Clippy.

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Oshogun wrote to Kurisu <=-

I like Libre Office because It does not have Co-Pilot!

Can't say I disagree. Many more reasons I like Libre Office beyond that, of course. :)

I personally rarely use office apps unless it is in a collaborative setting so I end up needing google docs, or something similar that
allows multiple people to simultaneously edit the same file.

What if you need to write a formal letter/response to <whatever>? Like
a request for information, or a letter to an official organization or something? That's not collaborative, it's just personal. Not
everything involves multiple people.

Also having to actually install an office suite on my computer
feels like an outdated concept

It isn't.



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Oshogun wrote to Kurisu <=-

I personally rarely use office apps unless it is in a collaborative setting so I end up needing google docs, or something similar that
allows multiple people to simultaneously edit the same file. Also
having to actually install an office suite on my computer
feels like an outdated concept

Microsoft 365 has decent web-based apps, too. I go through periods at
work where I do everything in the office web apps, since my other apps
are web-based, too. Makes more sense to switch browser tabs than to
switch between apps.

Onedrive and installed Office apps allow for online collaboration just
like the web apps do.



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Denn wrote to UTOPIAN GALT <=-

I love libre office, It's free and I can save my calc work to an excel document.

Ironically, I can't find the setting in my M365 tenant to change my
Excel and Word default save formats from .ods and .odt to .xlsx and
.docx!



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Kaptain_Krawdad wrote to UTOPIAN GALT <=-

Poor Clippy.

I'm sure somewhere in the dark recesses of a neglected hallway in a
disused building in Redmond, Washington, someone's written a Clippy text-to-speech addon for CoPilot.


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Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Oshogun to Kurisu on Sun Apr 19 2026 10:13 pm

I personally rarely use office apps unless it is in a collaborative setting so end up needing google docs, or something similar that allows multiple people t simultaneously edit the same file. Also having to actually install an office suite on my computer feels like an outdated concept

Do you ever update your resume or write cover letters to apply to jobs? That's one thing I do most frequently that I use an office app for (lately I've been using LibreOffice).

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I like Libre Office because It does not have Co-Pilot!

Agreed. I don't need someone or something else to compose my thoughts,
ideas, and presentations. Plus, unlike Microsoft Office, it's free.

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Gamgee to Oshogun on Mon Apr 20 2026 08:37 am

Hence why I said "personally". I never found myself needing to use a desktop office suite for any such task. I usually just use overleaf/sharelatex if I'm writing something that needs printing, otherwise I am not really used to office apps outside of "collaboratively editing docs or spreadsheets at work". I'm sure other users find more value in having office installed, I haven't since I was in high school

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Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Oshogun to Kurisu on Sun Apr 19 2026 22:13:57

Also having to actually install an office suite on my computer feels like an outdated concept.

So is BBSing, but you still do it. Think if it as "retro-computing". :)

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Gamgee to Oshogun on Mon Apr 20 2026 08:37:42

What if you need to write a formal letter/response to <whatever>? Like
a request for information, or a letter to an official organization or something? That's not collaborative, it's just personal. Not
everything involves multiple people.

These days such activities are done via email. Even resumes are often submitted as plain text via email.

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Oshogun on Mon Apr 20 2026 07:25:52

Makes more sense to switch browser tabs than to switch between apps.

Seriously? Switching between browser tabs: <CTRL-tab#). Switching between applications: <ALT-TAB>. Yeah, big difference.

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Daryl Stout to UTOPIAN GALT on Mon Apr 20 2026 16:41:02

Plus, unlike Microsoft Office, it's free.

So are the MO Web apps.

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Mortar to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Apr 21 2026 02:40 pm

Makes more sense to switch browser tabs than to switch between apps.

Seriously? Switching between browser tabs: <CTRL-tab#). Switching between applications: <ALT-TAB>. Yeah, big difference.

I think what he might be getting at is multiple tabs within the same app window vs. different & separate app windows.

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Oshogun to Gamgee on Tue Apr 21 2026 04:05 pm

Hence why I said "personally". I never found myself needing to use a

Please quote what you're replying to.. If you don't quote, we often don't remember what you're replying to off the top of our heads.

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Mortar wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Gamgee to Oshogun on Mon Apr 20 2026 08:37:42

What if you need to write a formal letter/response to <whatever>? Like
a request for information, or a letter to an official organization or something? That's not collaborative, it's just personal. Not
everything involves multiple people.

These days such activities are done via email. Even resumes are often submitted as plain text via email.

Perhaps in some circles. Not in all.




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Oshogun wrote to Gamgee <=-

Hence why I said "personally". I never found myself needing to use a desktop office suite for any such task. I usually just use overleaf/sharelatex if I'm writing something that needs printing, otherwise I am not really used to office apps outside of
"collaboratively editing docs or spreadsheets at work". I'm sure other users find more value in having office installed, I haven't since I was
in high school

If you can't quote some context, not sure what you're referring to, so
can't give you much of a reply. But OK.



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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Gamgee to Mortar on Tue Apr 21 2026 21:11:42

These days such activities are done via email. Even resumes are often submitted as plain text via email.

Perhaps in some circles. Not in all.

Point taken. I should've qualified that with "are often".

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Mortar to Gamgee on Tue Apr 21 2026 02:31 pm

Even resumes are often submitted as plain text via email.

That's not been my experience.
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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Mortar to Gamgee on Tue Apr 21 2026 02:31 pm

What if you need to write a formal letter/response to <whatever>? Like a
request for information, or a letter to an official organization or
something? That's not collaborative, it's just personal. Not everything
involves multiple people.

These days such activities are done via email. Even resumes are often submitted as plain text via email.

In my line of work, I've never submitted a plain text resume, and usually don't submit it via email. Most of the time, I'm filling out a job application online, which includes uploading my resume to the site during the application process, and I have a resume in PDF format that I use. I suppose I could use a plain text format for my resume, as it doesn't include anything too fancy, but just thought PDF looks a little better (in addition, things like underlines would take an entirely separate line in plain text format, whereas you can have underlined text in a PDF document).

I've submitted very few resumes via email; I've seen relatively few job postings for my type of work that instruct to send a resume to an email address rather than having an online application to fill out & upload my resume.

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Wed Apr 22 2026 01:00 pm

Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: Mortar to Gamgee on Tue Apr 21 2026 02:31 pm

Even resumes are often submitted as plain text via email.

That's not been my experience.

it's always pdf. or should be.
if someone pastes their resume into an email instead of a pdf attachment, they dont want the job.


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Digital Man wrote to Mortar <=-

Even resumes are often submitted as plain text via email.

That's not been my experience.

My daughter is applying for first jobs, and we helped her with a
resume. She opted for the heavy-weight, bone-colored fancy paper.
Reminded me of my first resumes, thinking back, I don't know where I
would have printed them -- I had a crappy 9-pin dot matrix printer.

Waitaminute - I got my first job doing accounting data entry by showing
up. My next job was the one that I needed a resume for, and we had
LaserWriters at the first job. I worked opening and closing shifts
managing a midrange computer, so I usually had an hour and a half
without any other employees around.



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Nightfox wrote to Mortar <=-

I've submitted very few resumes via email; I've seen relatively few job postings for my type of work that instruct to send a resume to an email address rather than having an online application to fill out & upload
my resume.

I hate job sites that ask you to upload your resume, then ask you to
hand enter all of the information on the resume into their database...

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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 23 2026 06:53 am

I've submitted very few resumes via email; I've seen relatively few job
postings for my type of work that instruct to send a resume to an email
address rather than having an online application to fill out & upload my
resume.

I hate job sites that ask you to upload your resume, then ask you to hand enter all of the information on the resume into their database...

I don't like that either, but the ones that parse your resume to fill out the form automatically usually don't do it very well, so you end up having to do a lot of it manually anyway.

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Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I don't like that either, but the ones that parse your resume to fill
out the form automatically usually don't do it very well, so you end up having to do a lot of it manually anyway.

My son is just starting out in employment with a college degree, and was complaining about having to apply to a handful of companies. He got a
paid internship that's lasted a year and keeps getting extended.

I showed him my OneNote "Job Search" notebook, I sent out something like
130+ resumes after I was laid off in 2016 - and I know people who've
sent many more. I hope I saw all of the poorly done candidate intake
processes then.

One company that was hiring for a video conferencing manager wanted you
to send them a video of you -- mind you, this is for a behind the camera position, not on-camera talent!



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Re: Re: I Like Libre Office
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Kaptain_Krawdad on Mon Apr 20 2026 07:25 am

Kaptain_Krawdad wrote to UTOPIAN GALT <=-

Poor Clippy.

I'm sure somewhere in the dark recesses of a neglected hallway in a
disused building in Redmond, Washington, someone's written a Clippy text-to-speech addon for CoPilot.

... Walk without rhythm and you won't attact the worm.

Last I saw, Clippy was hustling as a toilet paper holder in Cupertino.

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