• Good grief, groceries

    From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to All on Fri Sep 18 16:34:43 2026
    Well, groceries were already through the roof, but here where I am with Diesel now hoovering at $6.50/gallon and rising, we're starting to see the pain even more at the grocery store. Went shopping at Aldi of all places yesterday and good grief - I left with sticker shock.

    I honestly don't know how people are going to make it through this cycle. You can cut down, you can make swaps, but it's to the poing now where even the store brands and generics are approaching what was, a year ago, the name brand prices.

    We have really changed our eating habits here - beef is an absolute luxury now. Maybe once a month. Honestly, health wise probably better off for that one. We do a lot of things with beans, and chicken and pork is our big meat items nowadays. With it being summer, freshness has been easy to find with vegetables and such - though I wonder/worry about the colder months.

    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's different.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dmxrob on Fri Sep 18 17:35:41 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Dmxrob to All on Fri Sep 18 2026 04:34 pm

    Well, groceries were already through the roof, but here where I am with Diesel now hoovering at $6.50/gallon and rising, we're starting to see the pain even more at the grocery store. Went shopping at Aldi of all places yesterday and good grief - I left with sticker shock.

    I've been in a bit of shock for at least the past few years now, as prices have risen fairly noticeably over such a short time. It seems everything has gotten more expensive - Fuel, food, and housing (at least housing where I am) being a few of the main things where prices have shot up, and I don't know if most people can really afford it. I feel like at some point, something will happen, and I hope things don't get dreadfully worse.

    I've also noticed the job market has been fairly difficult too. It sounds like it's not just my industry (software/tech) but in general.

    I know this sounds like doom & gloom, but sometimes I think of the worse case scenario.. Not sure I want to go there.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dmxrob on Fri Sep 18 17:46:46 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Dmxrob to All on Fri Sep 18 2026 04:34 pm

    Well, groceries were already through the roof, but here where I am with Diesel now hoovering at $6.50/gallon and rising, we're starting to see the pain even more at the grocery store. Went shopping at Aldi of all places yesterday and good grief - I left with sticker shock.

    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's different.

    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem!
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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Nightfox on Fri Sep 18 18:09:00 2026
    dreadfully worse.

    I've also noticed the job market has been fairly difficult too. It
    sounds like it's not just my industry (software/tech) but in general.

    I know this sounds like doom & gloom, but sometimes I think of the worse

    I think about this often too. Like when will the masses become so frustrated that there is a tipping point. What will be the straw to break the camel's back and what will actually happen (if something actually does happen)? If a leader emerges to channel all of this angst and frustration that everyone is feeling, what would that look like? Second gilded age revolution type of thing?

    These are the types of thoughts that run through my head. Not saying I think it will happen, but I do know that a whole lot of people are feeling disenfranchised, like they were promised a path and a dream and that was taken from them like a big rug pull, that the share of the pie has been grossly and purposefully funneled to the elites, and they are struggling and the old messaging that they have been fed isn't effective anymore (such as meritocracy, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, you just need to work hard and you can do it too, etc).

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Fri Sep 18 20:27:30 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Fri Sep 18 2026 05:46 pm


    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's different. >
    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem!

    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    It's going to take time to repair all the damage.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Fri Sep 18 18:42:47 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Sep 18 2026 08:27 pm

    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Fri Sep 18 2026 05:46 pm


    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's different.

    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem!

    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    You seriously believe that?

    It's going to take time to repair all the damage.

    Yeah, the damage done by Trump.
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  • From Exodus@VERT/PHARCYDE to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 00:18:37 2026
    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    You seriously believe that?

    Oh Gawd, another one. You must live in CA too ...sigh.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 00:18:37 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Sep 18 2026 06:42 pm

    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem!

    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    You seriously believe that?


    Yes i do. Those years under biden were the worst.
    How can you think having a braindead abused senior was a good thing.

    You seriously believe that?

    It's going to take time to repair all the damage.

    Yeah, the damage done by Trump.

    give me some more of that damage. i do quite well under trump. i'm making more money than i've ever had.

    There's been a lot of accomplishments.
    He's probably the only decent politician we have left in our country.

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  • From Fae Empress@VERT/INTRANIC to Digital Man on Fri Sep 18 20:03:48 2026
    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    You seriously believe that?

    It's going to take time to repair all the damage.

    Yeah, the damage done by Trump.
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    Anyway, from a Canadian's viewpoint here, Trump can suck it. I have to pay $2/litre for gas, my grocery prices are up, everything is more expensive. AND HE'S NOT EVEN OUR PRESIDENT!

    I'll leave it there because I think there was some rule about politics or something?.. or was that fsxnet

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Sat Sep 19 02:44:43 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Nightfox to Dmxrob on Fri Sep 18 2026 05:35 pm

    I know this sounds like doom & gloom, but sometimes I think of the worse cas scenario.. Not sure I want to go there.

    You do have guns, right?

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 06:58:37 2026
    Digital Man wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem! --

    I hear him say that too. As someone who lives in a country you are at war with, it's commical to me to see how the north mexican's are suffering so bad. (US new name is "North Mexico" - I figure if the orage idiot can rename things so can I, I am at least more qualified not having been bankrupt as many times as him)

    Come on now Mro, it's your turn to tell me how stupid I am, and that gas is really cheap and food is affordable.


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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Sat Sep 19 06:58:37 2026
    MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-

    How can you think having a braindead abused senior was a good thing.

    You have one with dementia now!!!! WTF dude? Brainwashed much?


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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 08:21:17 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Fri Sep 18 2026 05:46 pm

    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's different.

    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem!

    I'm tired of winning, boss... can we please start losing a little?

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to Knight Shadow on Sat Sep 19 08:23:48 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Knight Shadow to Nightfox on Fri Sep 18 2026 06:09 pm

    I think about this often too. Like when will the masses become so frustrated that there is a tipping point. What will be the straw to break the camel's back and what will actually happen (if something actually does happen)? If a leader emerges to channel all of this angst and frustration that everyone is feeling, what would that look like? Second gilded age revolution type of thing?

    I think this is approaching more rapidly that most people want to acknowledge. The history books are littered with when this exact scenario has played out before. People are just fed up with the constant "more, more, more" for the elites while the rest of us move backwards.

    These tech bros and morons like Musk who think they are above everyone may wake up one morning to find they don't have to worry about the live forever part anymore.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to Exodus on Sat Sep 19 08:26:43 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Exodus to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2026 12:18 am

    Oh Gawd, another one. You must live in CA too ...sigh.

    No, we live in reality. Where we see our neighbors struggling, our friends and family making hard decisions over if they will be able to feed their family until the next paycheck, our nephews and nieces struggling to find even a basic job, our elders going without medicine and food because they just can't afford it, ourselves watching every penny, while more and more is taking away in terms of social safety nets and public goods.

    In short, we live in reality.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Knight Shadow on Sat Sep 19 09:06:39 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Knight Shadow to Nightfox on Fri Sep 18 2026 06:09 pm


    I think about this often too. Like when will the masses become so frustrated that there is a tipping point. What will be the straw to break the camel's back and what will actually happen (if something actually does happen)? If a leader emerges to channel all of this angst and frustration that everyone is feeling, what would that look like? Second gilded age revolution type of thing?

    In the end of the day it does not matter, because the bottom of the problem is the mass is not productive. Sure, most of the population might have a job, but it is a fictional job that produces nothing. It looks good on paper but does not keep a civilization running.

    When you analyze my close circle of friends, it is easy to notice the problem.

    One of them is getting paid government money in order to create a software implementation to solve a problem which has been solved already 30 times by FOSS software implementations.

    Another is getting paid in order to provide wifi coverage for government buildings, which would be ok except gov is not allowing the project to move forward because of reasons, so he spends his days sitting on his ass while getting paid his payroll for waiting for the next phase to get greenlit.

    There is this guy who spent 5 years working like a mule on a product everybody outside the project knew was gonna flop. At the end he was working long shifts in order to achieve his productivity goals fully knowing the product would never be sent to production.

    When you start adding telemarketers, middle managers, bureaucrats etc etc. you realize you have a big mass of the population doing nothing useful at all. This mass of useless population depends on a small bunch of dudes for doing actually necessary things (such as growing potatoes). In western countries I suspect this small group of people is not powerful enough to deliver which means western countries depend on foreign powers to fill basic necessities.

    At this point you are royaly fucked up because you need to buy basics from overseas using your currency, but your currency is worth less and less each year because you produce less and less of what people actually need. This translates in inflated prices for potatoes because your whole civilization is not worth shit.

    And the best part is no uprising is going to fix this because once the masses raise and place a new Comrade Stalin in power, no amount of wealth redistribution will be able to get anything better than an even redistribution of missery, since missery is the only thing getting produced one way or another.


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  • From Exodus@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 11:10:47 2026
    family making hard decisions over if they will be able to feed their family until the next paycheck, our nephews and nieces struggling to find even a basic job, our elders going without medicine and food because they just can afford it, ourselves watching every penny, while more and more is taking aw in terms of social safety nets and public goods.

    Then where did you live under Biden? Cause it was worse, and not because of Covid.

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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Arelor on Sat Sep 19 09:11:00 2026
    And the best part is no uprising is going to fix this because once the masses raise and place a new Comrade Stalin in power, no amount of wealth redistribution will be able to get anything better than an even redistribution of missery, since missery is the only thing getting produced one way or another.


    Interesting, I like hearing various takes people have on the current state of affairs. Some people have a positive outlook, some people have a nihilistic outlook, some have a revolution/uprising outlook.

    For your particular take, when you imagine things playing out, do you envision a certain outcome? It is status quo? Or rebellion? Or rome-style collapse of America perhaps?

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 09:08:59 2026
    Dmxrob wrote to All <=-

    Well, groceries were already through the roof, but here where I am with Diesel now hoovering at $6.50/gallon and rising, we're starting to see
    the pain even more at the grocery store. Went shopping at Aldi of all places yesterday and good grief - I left with sticker shock.

    $8.97/Gallon for diesel at a truck stop on I880 in Oakland.

    I honestly don't know how people are going to make it through this
    cycle. You can cut down, you can make swaps, but it's to the poing now where even the store brands and generics are approaching what was, a
    year ago, the name brand prices.

    I'm lucky I live in an area that grows a ton of food. We have a couple
    of local produce markets and meat suppliers. The meat is expensive, but
    worth it.

    We're focused on cutting down on food waste. Buying local will help,
    grocery store berries and fruits spoil so quickly that it's difficult
    to use them all before they get moldy. I'll start treating them as
    well, I've heard soaking them in a vinegar solution keeps them fresher.

    We have really changed our eating habits here - beef is an absolute
    luxury now. Maybe once a month. Honestly, health wise probably better
    off for that one. We do a lot of things with beans, and chicken and
    pork is our big meat items nowadays. With it being summer, freshness
    has been easy to find with vegetables and such - though I wonder/worry about the colder months.

    Was it a cabinet member who suggested we all eat veggie burgers? Oh,
    right, except the food safety guidelines and testing for veggie-born
    illnesses has been cut.

    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's
    different.

    We're not coming back from this, not in my lifetime.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Knight Shadow on Sat Sep 19 09:08:59 2026
    Knight Shadow wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I think about this often too. Like when will the masses become so frustrated that there is a tipping point. What will be the straw to
    break the camel's back and what will actually happen (if something actually does happen)?

    They would have to put their phones down and stop scrolling. An entire
    generation has been sedated.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 09:08:59 2026
    Dmxrob wrote to Exodus <=-

    No, we live in reality. Where we see our neighbors struggling, our
    friends and family making hard decisions over if they will be able to
    feed their family until the next paycheck, our nephews and nieces struggling to find even a basic job, our elders going without medicine
    and food because they just can't afford it, ourselves watching every penny, while more and more is taking away in terms of social safety
    nets and public goods.

    I worry about the cost of heating oil this year. People are going to
    have a hard time in colder climates.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Exodus on Sat Sep 19 09:08:59 2026
    Exodus wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    You seriously believe that?

    Oh Gawd, another one. You must live in CA too ...sigh.

    Here's where you were supposed to prove how much better things are.
    Instead, stooping to an ad hominem just makes you look desperate.

    Let me save the next step for you, you'll allude to the OP's ignorance
    and that it's not your job to educate people who don't think for
    themselves...


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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 09:33:00 2026
    I think this is approaching more rapidly that most people want to acknowledge. The history books are littered with when this exact
    scenario has played out before. People are just fed up with the
    constant "more, more, more" for the elites while the rest of us move backwards.

    This is the predominant scenario in my mind as well. I just don't know when, how, or what it will exactly look like. I wonder if it will just take one small group of people or even a single person to trigger the flashpoint.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 20:31:00 2026
    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem!

    Most people who are living off of our tax money see fewer problems when they (or their party) are in charge. They only see them when others are running the show.

    That said, diesel prices have been doing weird things for a while and I am not sure why. I can remember when diesel was cheaper than gas/gallon, and "they" were starting to encourage us to consider diesel vehicles. I cannot remember when that came to an abrupt end, but it did.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Knight Shadow on Sat Sep 19 20:37:00 2026
    dreadfully worse.

    I've also noticed the job market has been fairly difficult too. It sounds like it's not just my industry (software/tech) but in general.

    I know this sounds like doom & gloom, but sometimes I think of the worse

    I think about this often too. Like when will the masses become so frustrated that there is a tipping point. What will be the straw to break the camel's back and what will actually happen (if something actually does happen)? If a leader emerges to channel all of this angst and frustration that everyone is feeling, what would that look like? Second gilded age revolution type of thing?


    Getting us all to agree what is going on is bad would be the first challenge for anything to happen.

    As for what would that leader look like, I think you can already see that. A lot of people were frustrated in 2016 and elected someone who promised to make everything great again. The mess we were getting into that caused that strategy to work has just continued to get worse since.

    These are the types of thoughts that run through my head. Not saying I think it will happen, but I do know that a whole lot of people are feeling disenfranchised, like they were promised a path and a dream and that was taken from them like a big rug pull, that the share of the pie has been grossly and purposefully funneled to the elites, and they are struggling and the old messaging that they have been fed isn't effective anymore (such as meritocracy, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, you just need to work hard and you can do it too, etc).


    Again I reference 2016. Lots of people, but not necessarily the same ones, were feeling frustrated and disenfranchised then, too. I worry that this is the cycle we are going to be in. The "followers" of whichever side that gets elected will believe all is well while the other side becomes the frustrated and disenfranchised group. There will be some that move between sides, of course, but the general problem will remain.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Sep 19 20:38:00 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Fri Sep 18 2026 05:46 pm


    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's different. >
    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see
    any problem!

    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    It's going to take time to repair all the damage.

    Assuming that is the case, Vance seems willing to admit that time is needed. Trump often makes claims that all is already well and those that complaining are the problem.


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  • From Codechopper@VERT/GROGNARD to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 15:42:00 2026
    Dmxrob wrote to All <=-

    Well, groceries were already through the roof, but here where I am with Diesel now hoovering at $6.50/gallon and rising, we're starting to see
    the pain even more at the grocery store. Went shopping at Aldi of all places yesterday and good grief - I left with sticker shock.

    I'm lucky enough to work from home, so gas is not a real issue. The main
    issue is food. It is nigh impossible to eat healthy these days, and my
    diet is pretty specific as to what I can and cannot eat.

    We have really changed our eating habits here - beef is an absolute
    luxury now. Maybe once a month. Honestly, health wise probably better
    off for that one. We do a lot of things with beans, and chicken and
    pork is our big meat items nowadays. With it being summer, freshness
    has been easy to find with vegetables and such - though I wonder/worry about the colder months.

    Food is fast becoming a bigger expense than energy. My sister has a very
    large garden, so I can get veggies from her in-season, but when the
    season ends...yikes! $$$

    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's
    different.

    I'm with you here. As I approach 60 and my kids have families of their
    own, I see them struggle and frankly they have lost hope...there is no
    real future for them, and more importantly for their own kids.

    We are all kept so busy just trying to stay afloat, we can't take the
    time or travel to protest (or more) properly. We are all exhausted..and
    seeiong the current regime tear down our institutions and display utter
    cruelty to fellow human beings is disheartening.

    -E

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Knight Shadow on Sat Sep 19 17:33:19 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Knight Shadow to Arelor on Sat Sep 19 2026 09:11 am

    For your particular take, when you imagine things playing out, do you envision a certain outcome? It is status quo? Or rebellion? Or rome-style collapse of America perhaps?

    From my point of view, in 20 years from now, people will be eating worms around a bon fire and telling each other "Do you guys when hot dogs were affordable? Those where the times!"


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  • From Exodus@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 19 18:39:04 2026
    That said, diesel prices have been doing weird things for a while and I am sure why. I can remember when diesel was cheaper than gas/gallon, and "th were starting to encourage us to consider diesel vehicles. I cannot remem when that came to an abrupt end, but it did.

    I can ... 1999. Diesel jumped to $1.99 a gallon and my $40 fill up now became $80 for my 40 gallon tank on my truck. Gas was $1.17 still. Bought the Diesel in 1996 when Diesel was $.89 and Gas was $1.09. So go figure.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to MRO on Sat Sep 19 17:07:15 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2026 12:18 am

    give me some more of that damage. i do quite well under trump. i'm making more money than i've ever had.

    Me too!!!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Exodus on Sat Sep 19 19:30:54 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Exodus to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2026 12:18 am

    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    You seriously believe that?

    Oh Gawd, another one. You must live in CA too ...sigh.


    he does. i wish we could just saw off california like bugs bunny did in the Cartoon with florida.

    Let them try to do it on their own in their world of bullshit.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Fae Empress on Sat Sep 19 19:38:17 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Fae Empress to Digital Man on Fri Sep 18 2026 08:03 pm

    Everything is a lot better than our previous democrat president.

    You seriously believe that?

    It's going to take time to repair all the damage.

    Yeah, the damage done by Trump.
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    Wait guys! Let me get the popcorn.

    Anyway, from a Canadian's viewpoint here, Trump can suck it. I have to pay $2/litre for gas, my grocery prices are up, everything is more expensive. AND > HE'S NOT EVEN OUR PRESIDENT!

    Your country is on the list of the world's biggest oil producers.
    Your gas,etc should be cheaper.

    it's not trump's fault you have a poor country. you also let your govt take your guns and lock up peaceful protesters and lock their bank accounts.


    I'll leave it there because I think there was some rule about politics or something?.. or was that fsxnet

    Fsxnet is about censorship. That never works. It's just an echo chamber.
    It's a real snore fest. Plus the same people are over here. except a few Synchronet haters.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Sat Sep 19 19:44:52 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Tiny to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2026 06:58 am

    Digital Man wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    According to Trump, everything's great (again), still cheap. He doesn't see any problem! --

    I hear him say that too. As someone who lives in a country you are at war with, it's commical to me to see how the north mexican's are suffering so

    we aren't at war with canada. our politicians have told your guys that you don't matter. Your economy is very small. We do not need your products.

    UK, your true rulers should replace your govt with a less retarded one.
    That way you can be a self sufficient country.

    plus why are your gas prices so high? you guys are one of the world's leading producers of oil.

    why are you guys so dependant on the usa?


    bad. (US new name is "North Mexico" - I figure if the orage idiot can rename things so can I, I am at least more qualified not having been bankrupt as many times as him)


    That's just stuff to draw attention. Trump laways does that.

    Come on now Mro, it's your turn to tell me how stupid I am, and that gas is >really cheap and food is affordable.

    You know i love you so i'm not going to tell you how stupid you are.
    but you do seem to have some TDS and you need to blame your own country for your country's problems.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Sat Sep 19 19:52:53 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Tiny to MRO on Sat Sep 19 2026 06:58 am

    MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-

    How can you think having a braindead abused senior was a good thing. >
    You have one with dementia now!!!! WTF dude? Brainwashed much?


    I'm not brainwashed. I didn't even vote for him. Trump is probably
    The greatest president in my lifetime.


    It's a felony to abuse animals now.
    I have no tax on overtime
    tax rebate on social security.
    Fent deaths are down.
    Illegals that commit crimes are being shipped out.
    Manufacturing is doing well.

    Https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments-2018/

    Https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/2026/09/president-trump-delivers-historic-rEsults-for-the-american-people-in-under-two-years/



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 19:54:26 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Dmxrob to Exodus on Sat Sep 19 2026 08:26 am


    No, we live in reality. Where we see our neighbors struggling, our friends and family making hard decisions over if they will be able to feed their family until the next paycheck, our nephews and nieces struggling to find even a basic job, our elders going without medicine and food because they just can't afford it, ourselves watching every penny, while more and more is taking away in terms of social safety nets and public goods.

    In short, we live in reality.


    That sounds like the biden administration to me.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 19 20:01:35 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 2026 09:08 am

    year ago, the name brand prices.

    I'm lucky I live in an area that grows a ton of food. We have a couple
    of local produce markets and meat suppliers. The meat is expensive, but
    worth it.


    why is your meat expensive? the food suppliers are just playing games to increase profits like all the of them. they can grow chickens super fast, but The price still stays high.


    Was it a cabinet member who suggested we all eat veggie burgers? Oh,
    right, except the food safety guidelines and testing for veggie-born illnesses has been cut.


    it doesnt matter if the fda had cuts. food producers should check their food for quality and there are also entities that handle audits and checking their Methods and results. That has not been affected.

    different.

    We're not coming back from this, not in my lifetime.


    I hope not. Long live god emperor trump.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 19 20:02:28 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 2026 09:08 am




    I worry about the cost of heating oil this year. People are going to
    have a hard time in colder climates.


    People in colder climates generally do not use heating oil.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 19 20:03:14 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Exodus on Sat Sep 19 2026 09:08 am


    Let me save the next step for you, you'll allude to the OP's ignorance
    and that it's not your job to educate people who don't think for
    themselves...



    Well you can't be educated. You refuse to be.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 19 20:05:39 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Sat Sep 19 2026 08:31 pm

    "they" were starting to encourage us to consider diesel vehicles. I cannot remember when that came to an abrupt end, but it did.

    https://bettermarkets.org/newsroom/speculation-explains-more-about-oil-prices-aNything-else/


    Speculators play games oil prices.

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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Arelor on Sat Sep 19 21:17:00 2026
    From my point of view, in 20 years from now, people will be eating worms around a bon fire and telling each other "Do you guys when hot dogs
    were affordable? Those where the times!"

    Ain't that just the truth. I hear if you cook up wood grubs they taste just like chicken.

    I'll see you around the campfire!

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  • From Exodus@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mro on Sat Sep 19 23:26:33 2026
    he does. i wish we could just saw off california like bugs bunny did in the Cartoon with florida.

    Ugh. Guess some people will never learn? Did you see the stupid ass
    gov. of CA said if trump gives the $5k and people in CA take it, he is going to tax the people the $5k to the state? WTF? Who elects these stupid fucking people?

    Here's some money to help you out. Oh wait, I'm the libtard state and I'll going to tax you for it. Just like I do for when you move away. It's like a red-headed step child no one likes fighting back against everyone. I feel sorry for the people that are "normal" and stay there. :(

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 20 09:07:34 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 2026 09:08 am

    I'm lucky I live in an area that grows a ton of food. We have a couple
    of local produce markets and meat suppliers. The meat is expensive, but
    worth it.

    We really make use of our local produce market/farmer's market. It's a great source of fresh foods, and like you said, local meats. I am also thankful that we have a Costco near us which does a great job of trying to keep prices down as much as possible. Costco is a great example of a company that pays well, treats employees well, and tries to do good for the community - they are probably the only chain store I recommend nowadays.

    We're focused on cutting down on food waste. Buying local will help,

    Agreed. We are doing a lot more with leftovers nowadays than ever before. We've learned the art of freezing and prepping. It really does make a difference!

    Was it a cabinet member who suggested we all eat veggie burgers? Oh,
    right, except the food safety guidelines and testing for veggie-born illnesses has been cut.

    I make my own black bean veggie burgers, and I don't want to brag, but they are darn good. One of the things that COVID helped me do was discover how much I enjoy making certain food items -- I make my own bread, my own BBQ sauce, my own rubs, bean burgers, etc. Just so much more healthier for you and so much cheaper.

    BBQ sauce from the store is just nothing but high fructore corn syrup. Making it at home people can't get enough of it! No HFCS to be found!

    I've seen a lot in my 50+ years, but this time... I dunno, it's different.

    We're not coming back from this, not in my lifetime.

    I have to agree with this. I think the best we can do going forward is to erase that sh*t stain like we did with another one after WWII and rebuild. Just going to take generations.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 20 09:12:30 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Exodus on Sat Sep 19 2026 09:08 am

    Oh Gawd, another one. You must live in CA too ...sigh.

    Here's where you were supposed to prove how much better things are.
    Instead, stooping to an ad hominem just makes you look desperate.

    You just learn to ignore them because they provide zero value to society anymore. They are the ones who want to drain your energy and drag you down to their own miserable way of life. No thank you!

    Over the past 4-5 years I've purged all MAGA from my life, and let me tell you - my god, life is so much better. This included jettisoning a family member who at first I felt guilty about, but now I feel so much better without them in my life. I think there is this belief that you 'have to deal with' certain people such as family, etc -- but let me tell you that is 100% false. We don't "have to" deal with anyone we don't want in our lives. Getting rid of them can be one of the best things you ever do.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to Knight Shadow on Sun Sep 20 09:15:29 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Knight Shadow to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 2026 09:33 am

    This is the predominant scenario in my mind as well. I just don't know when, how, or what it will exactly look like. I wonder if it will just take one small group of people or even a single person to trigger the flashpoint.

    As Ernest Hemmingway penned in his 1926 classic "The Sun Also Rises", change happens slowly then suddenly.

    You are right - we don't know what it will look like, but when it happens, I think in retrospect we will be able to look back and see the gradual change/action that brought it about.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to Codechopper on Sun Sep 20 09:18:29 2026
    Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: Codechopper to Dmxrob on Sat Sep 19 2026 03:42 pm

    We are all kept so busy just trying to stay afloat, we can't take the
    time or travel to protest (or more) properly. We are all exhausted..and seeiong the current regime tear down our institutions and display utter cruelty to fellow human beings is disheartening.

    Change happens when we've had enough and make the time. I think back to Dr. King and the Civil Rights movement. Those brave men and women fought like hell, despite enourmous pushback. You could say they were extremely busy - but they knew they had to do it.

    Change happens slowly, then suddenly...

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/HDCBBS to MRO on Sun Sep 20 09:21:14 2026
    Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 19 2026 08:01 pm

    I hope not. Long live god emperor trump.

    This folks is a great example of pure mental illness.

    What person in their right mind worships a person?

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  • From ant@VERT/SYNCNIX to Dmxrob on Sun Sep 20 18:02:19 2026
    Dmxrob:

    I make my own bread, my own BBQ sauce, my own rubs, bean
    burgers, etc. Just so much more healthier for you and so
    much cheaper.

    BBQ sauce from the store is just nothing but high fructore
    corn syrup. Making it at home people can't get enough of
    it! No HFCS to be found!

    Excellent! Care to share the recepies for the bread and
    sauce? I make my own pana-cotta, and can share the recipe
    if you are interested, but is probably a mangitude simpler
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Sun Sep 20 08:54:32 2026
    Arelor wrote to Knight Shadow <=-

    And the best part is no uprising is going to fix this because once the masses raise and place a new Comrade Stalin in power, no amount of
    wealth redistribution will be able to get anything better than an even redistribution of missery, since missery is the only thing getting produced one way or another.

    What wealth? This isn't the 1700s, before the uprising all the wealth
    will be transferred offshore to plunder the next next economy.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 20 08:54:32 2026
    Dumas Walker wrote to Digital Man <=-

    That said, diesel prices have been doing weird things for a while and I
    am not sure why. I can remember when diesel was cheaper than
    gas/gallon, and "they" were starting to encourage us to consider diesel vehicles. I cannot remember when that came to an abrupt end, but it
    did.

    Around 2010, diesel went from being efficient and cheap to causing
    pollution in the minds of regulators. Being cynical, I could imagine big
    oil wanting to increase their margin on diesel by being forced to create
    new formulations and requiring people to add DEF to their cars on a
    regular basis.

    My understanding was always that diesels were more efficient and burned
    leaner because they pulled the same amount of air in at idle as they do
    at full throttle, and that what you see coming out of the tailpipe was particulate matter that settled out in the air - but the combustion
    gases were on par with gasoline engines.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Codechopper on Sun Sep 20 08:54:32 2026
    Codechopper wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    I'm lucky enough to work from home, so gas is not a real issue. The
    main issue is food. It is nigh impossible to eat healthy these days,
    and my diet is pretty specific as to what I can and cannot eat.

    I wonder when the "I need my team to work from an office 5 days a week
    to create SYGERGIES" is going to come up against "I can't afford gas to
    drive in 5 days a week".

    We have really changed our eating habits here - beef is an absolute
    luxury now. Maybe once a month. Honestly, health wise probably better
    off for that one. We do a lot of things with beans, and chicken and
    pork is our big meat items nowadays. With it being summer, freshness
    has been easy to find with vegetables and such - though I wonder/worry about the colder months.

    Yeah, we're used to a wide variety of vegetables year-round. WOnderful,
    but look at the country of origin on the label. If it's not growing
    near you, be prepared to pay a premium. You'll pay a premium for
    locally sources Big Ag produce, too, they'll raise their prices to
    match. They do need diesel to run their farms and fertilizer will cost
    them more each day.

    Food is fast becoming a bigger expense than energy. My sister has a
    very large garden, so I can get veggies from her in-season, but when
    the season ends...yikes! $$$

    Time to bring back the root cellar. And canning.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Exodus on Sun Sep 20 08:54:32 2026
    Exodus wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    I can ... 1999. Diesel jumped to $1.99 a gallon and my $40 fill up now became $80 for my 40 gallon tank on my truck. Gas was $1.17 still.
    Bought the Diesel in 1996 when Diesel was $.89 and Gas was $1.09. So
    go figure.

    I went through college with a VW Rabbit diesel. Seated 4 people, lots
    of cargo area, and 48 mpg highway - built in 1977!

    I loved that car, all you needed to do was check the valves, change the
    oil religiously, and change brake pads.



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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Dmxrob on Sun Sep 20 09:23:00 2026
    Over the past 4-5 years I've purged all MAGA from my life, and let me
    tell you - my god, life is so much better. This included jettisoning a family member who at first I felt guilty about, but now I feel so much better without them in my life. I think there is this belief that you 'have to deal with' certain people such as family, etc -- but let me
    tell you that is 100% false. We don't "have to" deal with anyone we
    don't want in our lives. Getting rid of them can be one of the best things you ever do.

    Thanks for this. I only recently got back into BBSing (since the 80s) and don't post on social media or forums or anything, so just started doing so here and on Cyberspace.online. Recent messages in this base have just been so vile. I had to go back and read into the history of certain users and now it makes sense where it is all coming from and the types of people they are. I'm all for healthy good faith debate, but this isn't that at all. I had to walk away for exactly what you said at the end of your post above.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Dmxrob on Sun Sep 20 20:30:00 2026

    These tech bros and morons like Musk who think they are above everyone may wake up one morning to find they don't have to worry about the live forever part anymore.


    If it isn't Musk and his lot with their shenanigans, it is Bill Gates and his lot that want us all eating bugs or lab-grown fake meat.

    I would like to put them all on a one-way rocket to Mars... maybe one that accidentally misses its destination and floats off into space, never to be seen or heard from again.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Exodus on Sun Sep 20 20:32:00 2026
    family making hard decisions over if they will be able to feed their family
    until the next paycheck, our nephews and nieces struggling to find even a basic job, our elders going without medicine and food because they just can
    afford it, ourselves watching every penny, while more and more is taking aw
    in terms of social safety nets and public goods.

    Then where did you live under Biden? Cause it was worse, and not because of
    Covid.


    I don't agree that it was worse, but it was no better for sure.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 20 20:38:00 2026
    We're focused on cutting down on food waste. Buying local will help,
    grocery store berries and fruits spoil so quickly that it's difficult
    to use them all before they get moldy. I'll start treating them as
    well, I've heard soaking them in a vinegar solution keeps them fresher.

    I saw something interesting the other day. Not sure what part of the country it was in, but restaurants throw out leftovers (especially fruits & veggies) into separate bins. Didn't understand if that was by ordinance or voluntary. Some farmer comes along and empties the bins, feeding the leftovers to his livestock... chickens, hogs, ducks, other animals.

    He apparently doesn't eat the animals, either. He just takes the waste from after they eat up the leftovers and uses it as organic fertilizer.

    I hope it wasn't all AI generated! :D

    Was it a cabinet member who suggested we all eat veggie burgers? Oh,
    right, except the food safety guidelines and testing for veggie-born illnesses has been cut.

    IMHO, that is no worse than suggesting we eat bugs or lab grown meat which should also come with food safety concerns.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Codechopper on Sun Sep 20 20:42:00 2026
    Dmxrob wrote to All <=-

    Well, groceries were already through the roof, but here where I am with Diesel now hoovering at $6.50/gallon and rising, we're starting to see the pain even more at the grocery store. Went shopping at Aldi of all places yesterday and good grief - I left with sticker shock.

    I'm lucky enough to work from home, so gas is not a real issue. The main issue is food. It is nigh impossible to eat healthy these days, and my
    diet is pretty specific as to what I can and cannot eat.


    If you try to eat unhealthy, you may also get sticker shock. :(

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